360 A Mind Unchanged: the DocumentaryStorm 180 RESPONSE

THIS IS A RESPONSE TO THE CONTROVERSIAL DOCUMENTARY: 180. 

A special review by Documentarystorm contributor Brandie Silva. Write your own reviews! Contact us here.

 

I value life as I value time. It is to be spent seeking happiness and peace and sharing what you find with others – every day, all the time, even when people aren’t noticing. That’s my take.

 

Ray Comfort maybe views life a little differently.

 

Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron

He seems to value his life so much that he needs to make films (180 – Movie – The Case Against Murdering the Unborn Child) about his opinions to qualify his existence. And believe he’s entitled to that. I believe he is free to make whatever film he wants, purporting whatever he feels to be true and that websites advocating for freedom of expression should be at liberty to offer a complete spectrum of ideological information.

 

Thankfully I’m free too. I’m free to share, as Comfort does, my opinion of his art* and how it makes me feel.

 

I don’t find Comfort disturbing, but just simply annoying. His 33-minute work is just another extremist rant about something the population and law makers of the western world have decided will make up part of our democratic freedom.

Full stop.

 

Extremists have always existed, will always exist and there is a place for all of us in this world.

Comfort should be thanking his God for that.

 

He should be thankful that people are tolerant of his severe and often ridiculous expression of his beliefs and stranger than science-fiction pairings of history with present day way of life.

 

He should be thankful that he is not being targeted in a hateful way for calling the majority of our population ‘unclear thinkers of low moral standards who make uninformed and unintelligent choices.’

If you watch the video, you will see the reference.

 

Fact is that not only has abortion been sanctioned by governments for a very long time – Roe vs. Wade made a precedent in 1973, but since then, it has been upheld over and over and over – for almost 30 years.  The just over a decade-long Nazi regime was overturned by the world, we all understood that something had gone terribly wrong and eventually,  Germans recognized it and even now, as Comfort points out, continue to recognize it as a mistake.

That says a lot.

Certainly more than Comfort does, and much more directly.

 

It isn’t until almost the seventeenth minute of this film that the audience is given the connection it is scrambling to make: how does Comfort compare the Holocaust and abortion?

 

So Comfort says that Hitler decided the Jews were non-humans and this justified exterminating them and that granting abortion is the consideration of a baby in-utero as non -human, and that is (in his opinion) simply not the case, so we as a society are no better than Hitler.

That’s just too simple a deduction, I’m afraid.

The people killed by Hitler’s regime were independent, living, breathing, working, ambulant, thinking, present and reflective human beings. How does that ‘life’ comparable to the ‘life’ of a fetus?

 

Right, it doesn’t.

 

I was thinking that maybe Comfort was attempting to say we’re all like the German masses who followed a tyrannical leader, adhering to his rules and laws, but that wasn’t what he was doing. I think that might have actually made a better and more reasonable argument.

 

The Roe vs. Wade case was a result that spoke volumes about how North American society was changing. Unlike Hitler’s prescribed change on the public, the abortion issue started with the public asking for change – not the other way around.

 

It must just be my limitation, this inability to logically collocate these two things.

 

I can’t find the correlation between the mass murder justified by a racial superiority complex with that of a person, a woman in this case, exercising her rights over her own body.

 

I just can’t.

 

Comfort goes around microphone in hand asking leading questions and selecting or editing only favorable outcomes. A more interesting and actual real documentary would surely be the outtakes of this production or propaganda, to be most accurate.

 

Here are my answers to Comfort’s questions, if anyone cares.

 

When does it become a life?

When you, as an individual think it does.

And if you choose to not think about it, don’t.

 

What justifies killing a baby in the womb?

If you even consider it a baby, then you may justify its death any way you want.

Especially if it’s your womb.

If you don’t want to think about it, don’t.

 

Who knows when a life begins?

No one has any proof of this answer, to my knowledge. Not yet, anyway.

So I default to my standard response: whenever you think it does.

If you don’t want to think about it, don’t.

Some people even say life begins after 40!

 

But now I’ll just come to my point:

The question is not about abortion, but about individual freedom.

Just as Comfort can ask leading questions and edit his film as he wishes, I am free to also decide not to watch that film.

Accessibility is something that Comfort doesn’t speak about, but should. It is the high value we place on personal freedom that allows Comfort and anyone else with half or full-baked ideas to go around and make expressive material for people to then decide to observe or not, like or not, respond to or not..

These choices are the fruit of the freedom we all enjoy equally.

So, in a sense, I feel that Comfort with this film, has bitten a couple of fingers off the very hand that feeds him.

 

And since Comfort seems to like the 10 commandments so much, I thought I’d express my spirit of collaboration by trying my hand at their interpretation – Comfort shouldn’t be the only one who gets a shot at lateral analysis!

 

This video could be in violation of commandments 2, 6 and 8, as I see it.

 

Comfort’s attempt to convince everyone of what he thinks is true and praising those who  make the 180-degree change of mind to agree with him is a clear example of how he is seeking out people to ‘bow down’ or ‘serve’ him and his ideology.

- Commandment 2 | thou shall not do something almost completely incomprehensible, even after reading it many many times, (I think) make idols out of anything other than the Lord.

 

This film kills/murders people’s freedom of expression, seeing as Comfort edits out any person who would have told him to take a hike during the invasive questioning process (surely there were some/many).

- Commandment 6 | thou shall not kill.

 

This film has stolen 33 minutes of time from my life – which, I have said I like to spend spreading peace and happiness – and there is no way I will ever be able to get that back.

- commandment 8 | thou shall not steal.

 

*art – I used this term in the text to describe Comfort’s work, because it is indeed a form of personal expression.

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  • NiceneCouncilcom

    There are those today that believe an embryo is an unborn human being; therefore killing that embryo is one in the same as killing a human that has been born. On the other side of the spectrum is the opinion that the embryo is not a human being until it is born, which by their reasoning, means that the act of abortion is not killing. But, either way those opinions do not excuse or address the actual problem because they do not specify exactly what killing, or in more severe terms, murder, is.

    As defined by The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, murder is “to put an end to someone’s life.” If one man murders another, his crime is not just the brutalization of the victim, but the wrongness of killing is understood in terms of what killing does to us. Killing us imposes on us the misfortune of premature death. That misfortune underlies the wrongness. Each child or embryo, depending on your opinion, will eventually have life and abortion prematurely ends that life. Therefore, by definition, abortion is murder and murder is unacceptable.

  • chris

    If you are to take a evolutionary standpoint then life begins in conception, if you disagree then study animal/insect reproduction.
    The only justification for abortion is the ideology that the unborn have no individual right to life, their life is dependent on the emotional and economical state of the mother and father.
    Women and Men will never be biological identical.
    For me its only rational from a scientific perspective that women must accept the burden of giving birth, though from a sociological standpoint motherhood should be voluntary. And equally important is that from the economic dimension that Men must collectively accept financial burden of taxation to support single mothers, orphanages and foster parents.

    • Snd

      Well, if you look at it from an evolutionary standpoint, if one is born with a genetic disease, then they should forego treatment because it’s in their genes. This isn’t a direct correlation, but the scenario is similar in that the person is being asked to “accept” aspects of their biology/natural functions that are debilitating, undesireable, harmful, even deadly to them, even though there are alternatives available to spare them from the physical and emotional pain.
      We do not live in the dark ages. A pregnant woman is not helpless, and there is no need for her to bow down in face of pregnancy. Also, the economy is not fueled by “Men;” I work and pay taxes too (surprise!) Perhaps if sexists like you stopped attacking womens’ fundamental rights with your “rationale,” no one would need to financially support strangers being forced to bear children that they cannot pay for or care for.
      You can use the guise of “scientific rational” all you want, but your “points” are unabashedly misogynistic.

  • Matt

    This is a Human Rights issue period. reproductive freedom is essential for the full and complete liberation of women in our society, the religeous right has hated the fact that women have been winning this battle because in their eyes women should be breed mare’s for the state, and if they had the choice not bear children it would empower them to refuse the chains of religious authority. the argument is simple – whether they admit it or not, the sub-text is the religious right is focused on putting women in their place (as they see it) and they are trying to pull at heart strings to get this done, no more no less.

    They know they are losing the war and this is one of those issues they fight to hold an ever receding line against Human rights , science , reason and human freedom. if we concede anything to them, its over.

    and I am a Male by the way. jsut incase you’re curious.

    cheers!

    M

    • Wiz

      Matt, does it even enter your mind how ignorant and prejudice you sound?

      But I guess that’s the bliss of ignorance…

      • Ashleigh

        you should attack his argument, not the person ;) otherwise its you who looks like a fool.

        • Wiz

          Wild unsubstantiated accusations don’t count as argument.
          So if you’re just displaying your prejudice against some groups of society, then there is noting to argue …except that you are making these claims.

    • ManUnkind

      Yes, the men are of course cheering women on to have abortions. Men do not get pregant. They just want sex,without condoms preferably. Too bad if the women are dumb enough not to realize that they will be the ones left holding the can. If they are dumb enough to be used, they should live with the consequences. Yes men. cheer on!

  • Wiz

    “Who knows when a life begins?
    No one has any proof of this answer, to my knowledge. Not yet, anyway.”
    Sure they do…life begins at conception. As soon as two living cells from two humans of opposite sex, join as one cell…and start dividing…that’s life.
    Some will debate that it is when the fertilized egg attaches to the uterus…but this is all still at the very beginning of any pregnancy.

    One just has to look at the animal pregnancies to see at how different stages of development they give birth to their offspring…some are fully developed, while others are born like us…in a un-developed and very helpless stage.

    But that just reflects the reality of reproduction…that it’s not over until the offspring is able to detach from the parent, and sustain itself.

    For humans they claim it is at age 25…but I guess in practice we would hope it is a lot earlier ;o)

    My point is that all these constructs we try to make in order to justify abortion, are pretty futile. Abortion is just a practical solution that is to be regarded as a “lesser evil” of two bad alternatives.
    And any debate should be from that platform…with the full awareness that it’s not morally justified as easily as we have led (or you could say kid) ourselves to believe.

    As for Comforts movie…well, it’s pretty much in line with all the other “sensational” movies out there…like Zeitgeist and 9/11 et al.
    It makes bold claims in order to push the movie-makers views…that’s the way it’s done nowadays…nope, I don’t like it either.

    But it does not count as any counter argument to just call him an idiot or whatever …because he’s clearly not. And your view is not valid just because you insist it is.
    Let’s hear some counter arguments….what exactly is wrong with his claims?
    You all seem to know that it’s clearly wrong. Ok…what is the fallacy?

  • Bruce

    Where did all the documentaries go. I used to like this site.mostly because I could be guaranteed a good quality full length documentary. Its become this strange platform for odd politics and clips. Please bring back the documentaries – you will be loosing me soon. Of course if this is the site you want it to be and others enjoy that, good luck to you.
    I defended you some months ago because I thought others were being a bit harsh but I guess they just saw it going in this direction. I dont mind a bit of change – but this is not the site I enjoyed in the past. It does not meet my purpose for visiting anymore. I dont want to sit at my PC watching short clips, I want my PC to replace TV.