Brainwashed by the Westboro Baptist Church

32 minutes 8.3/10 based on 7 votes

VICE is back and continue to produce eye opening documentaries. We set our sights on the story of the Westboro Baptist Church. The community where homosexual funerals turn into protests, and families are torn apart for the good of the Church. VICE has interviewed more than a dozen members of the group. They were given access to 17 years of home video footage. The result is a fairly unbiased look into one of the most hated organizations in the United States today.

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  • madscirat

    Good doc. Louie’s was better, far more personal and still objective, but that’s a high bar.

    The Westboro folks don’t bother me as much as most Christians. Taking the Bible as a given truth, their beliefs are far far more logically consistent than most of their more liberal counterparts. If other Christians forced themselves to interpret scripture as accurately and rationally as this church, they would have abandoned the religion decades ago instead of descending into a limbo of half truths and Bible editing. You either get your ethics from your heart or you get them from a book. There is no middleground.

    • AZryan

      If you just say ‘Louie’s was better’, only people who’ve already seen L. Theroux’s ‘Most Hated Family In America’ show/s know what you’re talking about. Are you trying to not be informative on purpose? If it’s too much trouble to explain, why post?

      Also, no one gets ethics from their ‘heart’. If you’re going to make a real point about something like where ethics comes from, or where it should come from, then probably not great to be poetically inaccurate. I mean, that’s kind of a core problem of religious dogma in the first place. ‘abuse of poetic nonsense to manipulate people’.

      For the record, ethics come from addressing physical and psychological pain and suffering and balancing the concept of fairness in a rational manner, etc.

      If you ‘feel in your heart’ stealing is wrong, it had to’ve come from something you actually learned from people, or nature itself, at some point. It could come from a book -just hopefully not any form of a ‘bible’ because those are illogical messes.

      • madscirat

        Louie was referenced several times during the doc, so it’s not a matter of being uninformed but not paying attention. Also, it’s hard to imagine many documentary fans not knowing who I mean when I say ‘Louie.’

        As for your ridiculousness concerning my heart comment. If you want to go through life taking everything literally, including comments any child knows aren’t meant to be taken literally, then that’s your decision. I, however, politely refuse to remove all poetry and metaphor from my language for the benefit of your swollen left brain… oh, see there I go again.

        • AZryan

          If someone didn’t ‘already see’ this doc then they might very well not know what you’re referring to in your post. That was and still is my point. Feel free to make posts like that, but it looks like you’re just trying to look like you’re ‘in the know’ rather than trying to be informative/helpful/useful at all.

          And you obviously don’t get my other point about how you used poetic language to make a point about where ethics ‘actually/really’ comes from. There are lots of places for the poetry of language, but ‘that’ isn’t one of them.
          Saying we get ethics ‘from the heart’ not a ‘book’ was a lousy point.
          Trying to explain my point further, I noted how religion also misuses poetic language in places where it doesn’t belong/causes assorted harm.
          If you want to believe I was chiding you for ‘not being literal at all times’, that’s just a lame strawman delusion you’ve put up to pretend your post was flawless, so constructive criticism must be impossible.

      • AddNewComment1

        Or you could just disagree with everything everyone says because your miserable and need to pick apart what others post because you feel a false sense of superiority.

  • SUM1UDONO

    So much for “Let him without sin cast the first stone”…

    • Trudy

      That’s my thought on that matter as well.. People like these idiots in this video pick apart scripture to suit what ever extremest view that they have…. Good Christians stand back and look at scripture as a whole… The bible as a whole is a book about love and acceptance not hate mongering… Every person has a right to their own views and opinions but obviously some people don’t understand that every little in significant thought that comes into your mind should not be shared. I find the saddest part of this video to be the young people who are taking part in all of this hatred. I guess the old saying is true “Hatred breeds more Hatred”. People in the United States have taken their Freedom of Speech rights to an extreme. Just because you believe something doesn’t mean it should come out of your mouth every other sentence that you say. Jesus said to go out and tell others about him so they could make their own decision about him, it was never his plan for you to force him on others …. It is ultimately ones decision to accept a faith, no matter how hard you push something on me if I don’t want it then I don’t want it. Here is some Bible verses that the Westboro Baptist Church apparently forgot to read:

      Matthew 7:1-5
      “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

      James 4:11-12
      Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

  • Jynessa Mcfadden

    Do you think god is proud of you? yea god intended it to be man and woman but i’m pretty sure god also said love your neighbor, he said nothing about spreading hate and holding picket signs … people in this world need to open their damn minds

  • sally ludwig

    If you are a teacher considering showing this video in class as an example of “free speech” then you are just as sick as the Westboro are!! PLEASE THINK TWICE!!! No captive (in class) LGBT teenager should have to be demeaned, degraded, and dehumanized for their sexuality which is what this film does!!! While people may say extreme hate groups are sick- the attack in this film on being born a homosexual human being still comes through loud and clear and kills the soul of a child who happened to be born gay!! LGBT students are more likely to commit suicide and showing this film could push a gay teenager over the edge (which is exactly what the Westboro folks want). If you show this in school you are pushing a subversive message to teens that are extremely vulnerable! SHAME ON YOU!! This film does not belong in a high school, or AP classroom… the College board AP folks have an equity access policy intending to get rid of bias that restricts diversity from doing well in AP courses an this film violates that!!! It creates a hostile environment towards LGBT. Please don’t do it!

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